Ambassadors Cup 2009 - Brit-Filipino Basketball in London

reknaw · Veteran Member

Ambassadors Cup 2009

B21 · Veteran Member

Lets hope this Ambassador's Cup happens!
Imagine if we could get a Filipino All-Star team from the UK, and play a team from either the PBL or PBA!? LOL

reknaw · Veteran Member

Would it be worth it though??

Who would select the team?? We know that kampi would just select the ex pros anyway. Carmona, Bravo, Reyes, Mustre and then other players from Philly like Ramos, Tuason, Lacubtan, Riveira.

Might as well not bother. Instead they could just go to Philippines at the same time and play there. Its the same thing.

The team should be represented by The Phillies born and raised in UK!!

nosense83 · Veteran Member

they are doing a ambassadors cup! they told us yesterday at the kampi west league during the opening.

the west league is looking good nice court, nice changing rooms etc new players as its a new area and just a different overall feel.

i think 2 teams should be formed, keep the committee happy and let them select the old school players mustre, carmona etc but also have a young selective team that were actually born in the UK. i mean sonics with some controllers and probs one from westside hhmm... probs me :) lol joking, would have a good overall squad to play anyone in philly in my opinion.

i hope this time for the ambassadors cup they will choose a better venue, i was helping my coach do a tournament at newham leisure centre and it look much better than lister and its only down the road.

reknaw · Veteran Member

That's a great idea. The problem is these Philly guys play the same type of ball as the guys in PBA, coz thats where they have learned to play. You need to put them up against some fil-brit ballers and see how they fare. Actually lets forget about Mustre, Carmona all together and have one Fil-brit team and one BBL team and see how good these PBA teams really are!! I don't have anything against the ex pros but lets face it, they have had a lot of help from the committee and officials in order to win, so they don't lose face. Lets get some proper refs in and see who the real winners are. I have full respect for what you're trying to do Nosense. Lets hope you can have a positive effect on the oldies!!

Mabuhay Pilipinas

-- Edited by reknaw on Tuesday 9th of June 2009 02:31:29 AM

B21 · Veteran Member

So when and where is the Ambassador's Cup being held?

Anyone know how many teams their will be or where from?

Good idea about London making up 2 teams, as their are more talented ballers in Central. biggrin Although the likes of Carmona and Bravo live outside of London, I think they'll be playing in the London team!?? (which is what I've heard!?!)

So how many teams are their in the KAMPI West league?
Anyone know of any favourites so far?

Peace
B21

nosense83 · Veteran Member

most are new teams but for me is the normal dmci they have a great squad including a new big man and his cousin from liverpool i think. (as they also play in slough)

no epsom team in this league, carmona told me the sponsors cnt put up the funds anymore ( credit crunch) i guess.

another strong team will be Charlton Blazers, they got carmona, bravo, chris from cld (elsa), joey cap, gally. they got a good overall big man team.

12 teams in this league, looking good so far but its only been one week. they are using some refs from the abba i think as i recognize one of them from my english league games.

im not too sure about when the ambassadors cup is gona take place but it cant get any worse than when they held it the first time.

its a mad one cos i duno how they are gona work it for the london teams, last time it was the different leagues making their own teams like dmci (when i was there also) was representing east london (elsa league) even tho none of my team are from east. epsom was representing kampi and Psuk (west london)had their own team aswell. ima ask uncle bert if he can hook me up and see if i can make a team with the young brits and see what he says.

a team from the BBL will kill teams from PBA in my opinion coz most teams in england have alot of american players that couldnt make it to the nba. and because of the english rules that allow teams to have as many american players as they want or i think 5 max as oppose to european rules which restricts teams in europe to only take 2 Americans. so what happens is that americans come play here, become a british citizen and then play in europe.

i come slightly off the point but still believe that BBL teams will merk pba teams.

B21 · Veteran Member

Nice one George lol

I reckon it would be a close match. We've got as many Fil-ams playing in the PBA as much as Americans playing in the BBL...maybe not as athletic tho.
But what they lack in maybe physical qualities, they (PBA) have got the fundamentals/training and team ethics to get something out of it. Look at our National saquad. We just merked New Zealand I think, Indonesia got ripped apart, we've probably got one of the best teams in ASIA right now, and by the looks of it, hopefully we'll be competing in the 2012...that's what the PBA's ambitions are which is very promising.

As for the West League, I guess Im not good enough to play there as no one asked me! Oh well...maybe next season lol

B21

-- Edited by B21 on Monday 15th of June 2009 04:28:53 PM

dark_knight · Veteran Member

B21 - A team called WestSide Kings would give you a trial if you want to join that team for the west league!!! hehehe...j/k

nirvana · Newbie

Ambassador's cup will kick off on the 8th of August with the opening ceremony to be held at a venue in London that is yet to be announced. As far as I know from the meetings we had, the tournament will have eight teams: London, Slough, Milton Keynes, Winchester, Portsmouth, Birmingham, ? Oxford, and Cambridge. Oxford is still a querry because their basketball tournament starts in August as well and is played every Saturday and Sunday. Due to the home and away format this year, the teams were only cut down to 8 with Liverpool and Norwich waiting in line. All teams will be playing all the other teams so the tournament will be longer. It was agreed as well that only one ex-professional player will be allowed to play in a team.

nosense83 · Veteran Member

apparently for the Philippines to be ini the Olympics they have to beat china in qualifiers, and china have 3 nba players in the squad.

its a mad one still.

b21 you should join our team southwark i think we need a go to guy when it comes to crunch time and that person is not me :(, jeff de vera and jovan plays for us. say the word and ill let frank know that you wnt to play.
im sure vincent would like you on our team.

let me knw b!

B21 · Veteran Member

Hey ballers!!

Anyone heard anything else about the Ambassador's Cup?
Heard the opening is on the 8th August at Newham Leisure Center. Looks like it will be a long tournament as it is a Home and Away format!?!
Anyone know who the teams will consist of? As far as I know, the London team might have J. Soria (Century/ML), Abaleda Brothers (Controllers), B. Vidad & J. Dela Cruz (Sunics).
Let us know if anyone else has been asked for the London Team!!!

Peace
B21

andru · Member

Latest News about Ambassadors Cup 2009!
   The event will be on August 8 ,2009 and it will start by 9 am at Newham leissure center.It is participated by 10 tough teams consist of the different talented filipino basketball players around UK.THis are the participating teams London,Slough,Portsmouth,Birmingham,sheffield,Winchester.Milton Keynes,Liverpool,worthing and Cambridge.And tournament is a HOme and AWay format.Here are some of the schedules in Opening day>Aug 8.
    1ts game--sheffield vs Worthing 2nd game Birmingham vs Milton keynes 3rd game--portsmouth vs winchester 4rth game Cambridge vs Liverpool 5 game London vs Slough.
And this event will be headed by the Organisers of KAMPI WEST basketball league and the Head and staff of PHIL.EMbassy.

     So, invite your family and friends to witness the opening day of our 2nd Ambassadors CUp 2009.I can't wait to watch this spectacular event and games.

Editor · Moderator

WOW that's this Saturday!!! HOw come you know so much? Are you representing a team or the organisers?

Editor · Moderator

reknaw wrote:

That's a great idea. The problem is these Philly guys play the same type of ball as the guys in PBA, coz thats where they have learned to play. You need to put them up against some fil-brit ballers and see how they fare. Actually lets forget about Mustre, Carmona all together and have one Fil-brit team and one BBL team and see how good these PBA teams really are!! I don't have anything against the ex pros but lets face it, they have had a lot of help from the committee and officials in order to win, so they don't lose face. Lets get some proper refs in and see who the real winners are. I have full respect for what you're trying to do Nosense. Lets hope you can have a positive effect on the oldies!!

Mabuhay Pilipinas

-- Edited by reknaw on Tuesday 9th of June 2009 02:31:29 AM

I agree with the need for proper refs who are against soft fouls and in favour of play continuation in order for the game to flow a bit more. I think one particular ref shouldn't be on the court anymore as he really is out of date. We all know who he is.

I disagree with the senior players getting preferential treatments. Remember KAMPI 2007 final? DMCI were declared champions because Epsom were late.

My advise is just concentrate on the game then pick out the good bits and not so much the bad.

TIKBOYZ · Member

Andru is sheffield team joined the ambassadors league? do you know who are the players? i just wondering who in sheffield joined the ambassadors cup well in fact sheffield team is still playing in Manchester league, our finals will start next week august 15, 2009. Manchester vs Liverpool for the championship and Sheffield Barracudas vs Stockport for the 3rd place. I would be greatful if you give me a bit of info about the sheffield team who is joining the ambassadors league. thanks very much.

andru · Member

MABUHAY!!!
In our last meeting,Sheffiled back out in the ambassadors cup co'z in conflict in their days schedule of their ongoing tournament in Manchester.And LEEd's team got the slot but i dont have any idea who's their players.About the referries who will officiate the games they need to be tough and they make sure they are fair enough in all games.As I observed in general with our ref they are good enough to handle the games.But some ref need to update to new FIBA rules.
Who will team to beat?For me LONDON team will be the CHAMP this time with the combination of SOme veterans and sophomore players like Ebilane ,Ramos,Alcantara,VIDAd sambo and abileda.I think they have perfect chemistry to lead the tournament.Second for me is SLOUGH (bearkshire)the team compose of the same calibre of players but not good enough to be the top likeCArmona,RIVEra,Zapanta.Jay ting, jankie,muster sr. and bravo.AS a whole the AMBASADOR'S CUP games will be full of exitement, energy and thrill.And we will discover and watch some new talents from different teams.ANd I think this TOUrnament is more competitive than 2 years ago.SEE on sat...mabuhay!!

TIKBOYZ · Member

yeah your right andru our sched is conflict to the ambassadors cup where the manchester league happens to be ongoing and finals is starting next week, if only ambassadors cup starting after manchester league we will join the league. anyway thanks for the info. so andru what team you join in ambassadors league?

andru · Member

Slough,london from north and liverpool,birmingham from the south.Those four teams will be going to the semi finals in ambassadors cup,in my own observation.How about yours members?
A succesfull opening day in the ambassadors cup this morning.A lot of basketball entusiast came over at new ham lesure center to witness their own favorite teams.In the 1st game leeds won against worthing 2nd game birmingham defeat milton keynes double overtime sory missed by jacson 3rd game liverpool overpowered cambridge 4th game winchester drowned portsmouth and last game london tumbled berckshire just one point,and the hero MR CAmlon!He snatch a running shot with just 3.4 secs. to go.

In general,the participating teams showed their camaraderie and sportsmanshiptoward the games.Congrats to all the winners.ANd thank you to the Phil. embassy and members of Kampi west and Elsa to conduct such tournament See you in Brighton next sat.Definetly, we will watch some exiting ballgames.c ya.....Mabuhay PILIPINAS!!!!

Jun_Macul · Member

im just soo glad we finally put away milton keynes in double OT finally we could make freethrows when we needed it the most :P ..

-- Edited by Jun_Macul on Saturday 8th of August 2009 10:10:13 PM

Jun_Macul · Member

Jun_Macul wrote:

-- Edited by Jun_Macul on Saturday 8th of August 2009 10:09:42 PM

Slammed154 · Newbie

Yeah i saw birminghams match it was nail biting all the way .. and every team put on a good show i thought.

i think the people who can change the outcome of games are as follows (This is only my opinion)

Quiambao , Carmona , Bravo , Mustre ( Obviousely the 3 musketeers hehe ), Villegas and some other i just cant remember their names there was a lot who are amazing

i think the people we never seen before who have the young Talent could be good in the near future (Yet again my own opinion)

Genes(Liverpool) , Burtonwood(Birmingham) , and yet again a lot of others i need to start writing their names on a list because soo many i cant remember.

anyways theres my list of people who i like in this tournament

Gidz · Veteran Member

is it really an ambassador's cup?. lolz.. i cannot even see a single AMBASSADOR'S CUP BANNER anywhere in the venue. Only in the team's respective uniforms. NO OFFENSE TO the organisers. What really disappoints US in BERKSHIRE Team is the apparent arrogance of some of the key organisers.

Firstly, they havent even acknowledged the presence of the various league committees who were present in the opening ceremony. i think they have forgotten that when they visited us in Hershchel Sports [PROUD to have the best sporting venue for filipino basketball in the southeast so far], we warmly welcomed and even acknowledged their presence infront of the crowd.

Secondly, we are told that our game is scheduled as SECOND GAME but ended up as the last game. One of the Berkshire Filipino Basketball Committee queried this with an organiser and he gave a cold shrug and arrogantly said to talk to whoever the captains are if they are happy to swap. OH MAN.....

Thirdly, they asked us to write the names of our pool of players in a blank score sheet and when they took the paper, i dont know who that old man is but he said, we wrote it in a different page.. AGAIN OH MAN.. THEY WERE THE ONE WHO GAVE THE PAPER.. loz..

4thly, indeed, the game between the LONDON Team vs the BERKSHIRE TEAM was decided by THE KAMPI COMMITTEE.. NO OFFENSE.. because video evidence show that Berkshire Team has the last ball possession. One of the referees even conforms that the BERKSHIRE TEAM should have ball possession.. but, again, the KAMPI COMMITTEE's LIGHT IS ON THE LONDON TEAM.

5th, UNCANNINGLY, the ambassador's cup is played only on a SATURDAY. THE REASON why we fielded a TEAM in Berkshire League is that we're told it will only run on a 2 weekends [saturday and sunday], but annoyingly, made it a proper league that runs only on a SATURDAY. In the spirit of fairplay, they should have set schedule to a Sunday as initially promised as well so as all affected leagues' got equally disturbance from the said event. I dont know what's on the mind of the KAMPI organisers but this is a direct insult to all saturday leagues. tsk tsk tsk

6th, whoever wins anyway, may it be london, berkshire or liverpool, the very fact remains.. the main man of those teams are playing in the current Berkshire Filipino Basketball Summer League 2009... no more no less..

LONDON TEAM = combination of Trinidad Warriors and Jaguars [currently ranks 1st and 3rd in the Berkshire League].
BERKSHIRE TEAM = combination of Kusinang Munti, Airside & Speed Money [currently ranks 2nd, 4th and 5th in the Berkshire League]
LIVERPOOL TEAM = all main players playing in Trinidad Warriors
CAMBRIDGE = all main players playing for AIRSIDE & Kusinang Munti
WINCHESTER = all main players playing for Basingstoke

So, what more will we ask? hehehheheheh

NONETHELESS, what ever the outcome of the current kampi's ambassador's cup, we dont really care as the organisers of the kampi-ambassador's cup doesnt care at all.

ANYHOW, I WILL TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE YOU GUYS WHO WANTED TO PLAY EXHIBITION MATCHES during the semis and championship. Send email to filipinobasketball@yahoo.com and we will be very happy to accomodate you. Make sure that you have a quality bench as to be honest, if your team is class b, you will not beat anybody..

Tah!

-- Edited by Gidz on Tuesday 11th of August 2009 07:28:27 AM

B21 · Veteran Member

I guess Gidz, u are part of the Berkshire League and Team!? biggrin

As you should already know, its never perfect with KAMPI...east or west, and same goes for your beloved league.
Fair enough they should've told you guys about the league being on a Saturday which does affect your league dramatically, but for the opening,if you look at previous posts here, Andru stated that London Vs Slough were last game that day...& that was a few days before the opening!!!

Also, what happened to the rules of having one ex-pro in one team!? disbelief

As for the main players, u said;
6th, whoever wins anyway, may it be london, berkshire or liverpool, the very fact remains.. the main man of those teams are playing in the current Berkshire Filipino Basketball Summer League 2009... no more no less..
London team has a few from KAMPI East that are very worth mentioning. biggrin Vidad (SUNICS) and the Abeleda brothers (Controllers) put in good performances, even with the fact that they've never played with any of the London players.

Your video evidence says ball possession should have been yours in the last 3.4 seconds? I guess the last play you didnt see, when Vidad(no.4) got the rebound and about 3 Berkshire players tried to steal the ball off him by throwing him to the floor?! Maybe that's why the refs gave it?

But in all honesty, it was the players that dictated the game, not the committee, nor the refs as they made good & bad calls for both teams!
Tight game throughout as both teams never really took their lead advantages. Second half was tough and the last few minutes were tense as the lead kept going back & forth. I guess the London Team had the momentum at the end and so finished the eventual winners with a last clutch basket.
As a player/spectator/fan of Basketball, that was a great game...and that is why...

"I LOVE THIS GAME" biggrin

Peace
B21

dark_knight · Veteran Member

some interesting last few comments here. I'd like to give my 2pence...

As a non-participant of the ambassadors cup, but a spectator, I do somehow agree with Gidz' comments regarding the poor organisation of the cup, mainly because, I did not even know about the ambassadors cup happening until a few days before. Everything seemed to have been organised "behind closed doors". I dont even know how the teams were selected??? Watching the London vs Berkshire game, the selection of players looked rather political... None of them really represented the city they were from, everyone just seemed so mixed up...E.g. Capistrano does not live in berkishire and he also plays for Kampi West. I bet you only a handful of berkshire players actually live in berkshire, am I correct?

On Gidz comment regarding the berkshire league being the breeding ground for the main players in the ambassadors cup, i have to disagree... Have you not thought that many of the players that play in the berkshire league also play in other leagues, so I dont think you are right for making that claim... E.g. All of London team play for Kampi East or West... And this is exactly my point, the ambassadors cup (although has the strongest filipino players in UK) is not a true representation of which UK city the players belong to. It's just each league has chosen players to play for them regardless of which area they live in and thats why the ambassadors cup, although sounds highly regarded doesnt sound like its a sustainable competition...

With regards to the complaint about how the game went between Berkshire and London, I guess the losing team must be feeling bitter right.. Had Berkshire won, I dont think you would have written the above comment right? But I do agree with B21, that London team was carried by 2 of the best british born filipinos in the UK at the moment, which unfortunately the Berkshire league do not have the privelege of playing in their league and can give the likes of the so called ex-pros a run for their money!!!

Anyway good luck to the rest of the teams competing in the ambassadors cup!!! hope you represent your city well!!! GO LONDON!!! Probably the only team that has 3 BRITISH born Filipinos which is the group of filipinos that I represent!

nosense83 · Veteran Member

LET GO LONDON LETS GO!!!!

good game good game!

I do need to agree with dark_knight and b21 coz i must admit some calls didnt happen and some were dodgy but it went both ways. one of the slough players was playing real dirty and at the end ryan didnt get calld for a travel for getting up from the floor with the ball.

you may need to look at your video again gidz coz you had last possession before the jump ball was whistled and in the rules its explains that if you had last possession inbound then the ball goes the other way.

also most of the players playing in slough were playing in kampi leagues years before you even started, half of the london team and your team play in the west league aswell(century and kingston some from charlton etc), so no need to talk like slough is the best league in the UK.

you just have to accept that you lost, it was a amazing game me and dark_night enjoyd the game and s**t happens.

andru · Member

LOndon and slough!Well done guys....i enjoyed the game..... that is the game...

In my point of view,both teams are deserving to win on that game.But in every game there should be a winner.And sometimes, there some crucial and hard to accept situations in every game.Thats what happend to the game of london and sluogh.Because,the slough team claiming that the last ball possetion should be in their side.?And they have video evidenced to show to the commitees.If ever it is true or not.Who will be the responsible for that said mistake.(ARROW POSITION)the REFS or Table commeeties?you decide....
For me,in GENERAL the organisers kampi,elsa and phil.embassy did a very good job in the opening of the ambassadors cup.We need to appreciate guys all the effort of this people to organise this kind of basketball tournament.And we know how difficult it is.They just came out to give happines and to unite us filipinos in the U.K.
Butthe mistake of the organisers they didnt mentioned the managers and organisers of the different teams.AS gids said.They have also the privelegde to mention on the opening day..Dont wory gids ,for me your tournament is the most competitive tournament here in the uk.with nice and comfortable venue.
Just see what happen to the following games.FOR me london vs berkshire for the FINALS!!!!

Editor · Moderator

dark_knight wrote:

some interesting last few comments here. I'd like to give my 2pence...

As a non-participant of the ambassadors cup, but a spectator, I do somehow agree with Gidz' comments regarding the poor organisation of the cup, mainly because, I did not even know about the ambassadors cup happening until a few days before. Everything seemed to have been organised "behind closed doors". I dont even know how the teams were selected??? Watching the London vs Berkshire game, the selection of players looked rather political... None of them really represented the city they were from, everyone just seemed so mixed up...E.g. Capistrano does not live in berkishire and he also plays for Kampi West. I bet you only a handful of berkshire players actually live in berkshire, am I correct?

On Gidz comment regarding the berkshire league being the breeding ground for the main players in the ambassadors cup, i have to disagree... Have you not thought that many of the players that play in the berkshire league also play in other leagues, so I dont think you are right for making that claim... E.g. All of London team play for Kampi East or West... And this is exactly my point, the ambassadors cup (although has the strongest filipino players in UK) is not a true representation of which UK city the players belong to. It's just each league has chosen players to play for them regardless of which area they live in and thats why the ambassadors cup, although sounds highly regarded doesnt sound like its a sustainable competition...

With regards to the complaint about how the game went between Berkshire and London, I guess the losing team must be feeling bitter right.. Had Berkshire won, I dont think you would have written the above comment right? But I do agree with B21, that London team was carried by 2 of the best british born filipinos in the UK at the moment, which unfortunately the Berkshire league do not have the privelege of playing in their league and can give the likes of the so called ex-pros a run for their money!!!

Anyway good luck to the rest of the teams competing in the ambassadors cup!!! hope you represent your city well!!! GO LONDON!!! Probably the only team that has 3 BRITISH born Filipinos which is the group of filipinos that I represent!

In addition to dark_knight's comments.

1. The Cup is not exactly organised behind closed doors but mainly to those that are directly involved. ie. players, managers. I know that this event was mentioned at Northolt. I could not get involved due to other commitments. So unless you are directly involved you'll feel that you've been kept in the dark as both league don't really pay a web editor to update their sites. When I had more free time I used to update my webpages on angelfire.com. Links are on britfilipino.co.uk

2. Most of the players were selected from the league they play in. Hence the reason why Capistrano is with Berkshire cos he's not playing in East London at the moment. And some, I must admit have been recruited to make up the numbers until the genuine area league players became available for their respective matches.

3. I think it will be a sustainable annual competition because it is supported by the Ambassador and will be popular with sponsors as long as the costs are reasonable.
Our Honorable Ambassador was there from the early hours until around 530pm. If he's dedicated to the cause I am sure there will be others who will gladly support him.

4. I think it is not fair that only two players carried the london team. Yes, Vidad stood out and I did not spot any errors in his game. It was a collective win. I also think Berkshire lost the game due to the amount of errors. They allowed London to get back into the game when they thought they were pulling away in the second half. The free throw misses by Carmona and Capistrano were crucial. As well as Ebilane and Vidad for London.

5. Who are these BritFil's?

6. I can only think of one ex-pro in the Berkshire team and he's 40 somethin? The others are from amateur leagues like PBL, UAAP and Quiapo plaza.

7. At the moment, Berkshire League is more unpredicatable in the finals the other two London leagues.

Kakainggit kayo....if only I could...

nosense83 · Veteran Member

sorry mr editor but I watched both finals last year at slough and kampi and to be fair kampi's final was more unpredictable.

And what do you mean who are these fili brits? i can assure you i can make a great team just using philli's that were born and breed here. Ok i dont have a problem with Mr Capistrano playing for slough but just because he is not playing in the east london league does not justify why he is playing for slough even if he is playing in the slough league. Common sense should suggest that if his not picked for london then he is not eligible to play. He plays for Charlton in the west league with Carmona and bravo which is probably the reason why he is playing for slough.

I'm sure conversations between players might not make any sense: "where area are you from?" "london!" ....
"ok so your playing for london then?" "urm... nah im representing leeds". it just don't make any sense if you are getting my point.

i dont want to take anything from the game and Capistrano is my boy! but when you notice something that is wrong you have to point it out. . I thought ambassadors would be about where your from and who your reppin for, if you throw that out the window you might well make another normal league and call it a day.

Editor · Moderator

Sorry. I shudda made meself clearer. I meant was this year's finalists in the London Leagues could the two teams that stood out. ie. Sunics and Controllers in the East. Charlton and Jaguars in the West. But in Slough, (hearsay) they possibly have 3 or 4 contenders to be champs!

Can you really make up a great team of FilBrits now? can you name them?

pinaypink · Member

does anyone know the schedule for this saturday please? or the whole schedule for the whole league in fact? lol. would be very much appreciated.

..COME ON LONDON!! biggrin

Editor · Moderator

I don't....

but the videoclips for this match are now available to view at
http://www.youtube.com/user/britfilipinoeditor

nosense83 · Veteran Member

yea if i had time to think about and prepare i could make a very good squad but on the top of my head i would have the abeleda brothers, bing, john de la cruz, roland morris, jeff de vera, mike payas, delfin from controllers patrick muyot who use to play with lloyd in the english league back in the day. im sure i can get a good 10 man team that would be too quick for teams to catch up with.

trust me it can happen.... you know what it will happen and i rest my case coz im not gona say anything until i am able to create the team. but their are your names and thats just on the top of my head.

dark_knight · Veteran Member

i think u should also include George Pineda in there... Also Chris East from Controllers. Come to think of it, maybe even John Ragasa and Alistair from Sunics...

Editor · Moderator

So basically, most of the players of Sunics, Controllers and Kings? How about some from CLD? Kings are still not ready tho. They are still don't have the leader that most championship winning teams have. The player that makes the whole team play together for one goal. I don't mean the best player in the team although that player is usually the captain.

nosense83 · Veteran Member

mr edittor your are going abit off point now, kings may not be ready but if i was to take roland from the team and take a couple of other players from other teams that are born and bred from here, i believe that we would create a great team. and every player i stated was just off the top of my head, i would probs take players from cld but thats something i would have to think through if i had to chance to make a team.

but i do understand where your coming from!!! they need me back lol !!!!

Editor · Moderator

That's what I'm talkin about! I wanna see the tiger in you..you know you have a good team but still short of sumtin! Those are the four teams I can think of that have BritFils as their core players. CLD have those guards that are so quick and sometimes unpredictable. Rowland is an outstanding player but he can't do it all. Eg, be a playmaker, a defender and a scorer cos once you put a man on him he's only 50% useful to the team. (that's just my rough calc.) Although I may not be qualified to judge but you know what I'm talkin about. See you on the court....sometime...

nosense83 · Veteran Member

urm.. i dnt play for westside no more!!! im playing for southwark with jeff de vera!!!

B21 · Veteran Member

LOLOL - Jokers

I'd like to add my input on this as I know quite a few Brit Bred Pinoys who play Ball.
We would have a very decent team that can challenge for this Ambassadors Cup if we were able to do this. These guys know how to play and most have the experience to compete at a high level.

SUNICS
Mark Ordona - G
Bing Vidad - F
John Dela Cruz - F
Alistair Perdido - G/F
John Ragasa - G/F

CONTROLLERS
Ryan & Banj Abeleda G/F
Chris East - F/C

KINGS
Rowland Morris - C

NORTHGATE
Cant remember their names but I think they're brothers. They're half Filipino and they are their go to guys on that team. Young & can only get better.
Forward & a Center

CLD
Jay Sabala - C

CHARLTON BLAZERS
Christian Okoye - F/C

So that's 13 players right there that would scare many teams. I may have missed some people out so correct me...but if I had a chance to make up a team for the next Ambassador's Cup, I'd call these guys instantly!!!

"I LOVE THIS GAME"

B21 biggrin

nosense83 · Veteran Member

i rest my case!

Slammed154 · Newbie

yes they r good but dont just stick to london .. there are many uk places who have lots of young talent take the north of UK for example .. they r very well known for producing very tall half pinoys there i already seen 4 6ft3 and above pinoys up there it just that the north dont get the recognition it deserves everything focuses around te capitol ... id say bring a good pinoy team from london up to either Manchester or Liverpool the team up there can easilly give ua run for the money.

B21 · Veteran Member

Erm...Slam dude, I dont doubt that their are other talented pinoy ballers in the UK.

But we were specifically talking about the London ballers, hence our debate on who would be picked to represent LDN!!!

NEway, these guys you are talking about, are they playing for a team at this years Ambassadors Cup?

"I LOVE THIS GAME!"

Peace
B21

andru · Member

Ambasadors Cup 09 Result week 3
host (Milton keynes)

First game;

Milton keynes vs Leeds
79-68 winner MK
Marvin De vera -best player

Second game;

Liverpool vs Birmingham
87-78 winner liverpool
Aldrich Reyes best player

Third game;

Milton keynes vs Cambridge
82-72 winner MK
Mr. Gatui best player

Fourth game;

Birmingham vs Leeds
79-57 winner Birmingham
Mr Magdayao best plaYER

SCHEDULE FOR NEXT WEEK (AUG.29 09)
Host team (PORTSMOUTH)

1ST GAME WORTHING vs WINCHESTER

2ND GAME BERKSHIER vs PORTSMOUTH

3RD GAME WINCHESTER vs LONDON

4TH GAME WORTHING vs PORTSMOUTH

see you there guys......MABUHAY ANG MGA MANLALARUNG PILIPINO!

B21 · Veteran Member

Anyone know what's happening this Saturday?
Heard its the semi-finals at Northolt where Kampi west is staged?

Times and teams if you can please!!!!

Salamat!

B21

Editor · Moderator

A Milton Keynes player told me that they were given a run around by KAMPI West. They were told to get their team ready because Birmingham refused to play anymore; but only to be told on Friday (day before the actual match) that they were not! Because Birmingham changed their minds and decided to play after all!!!

And some of the big teams did not turn up either cos most of the big names were involved in the Berkshire League semis.